[kino] Peter Greenaway report

[Dmitri Krioukov]

many argue that von trier's dogville was not so
much misanthropic, but anti-american instead.
i wonder what greenaway would do if von trier
asked him to make a short about united(!) states(!)...
--
dima.
http://www.caida.org/~dima/

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> From: kino-bounces at caida.org [mailto:kino-bounces at caida.org]On Behalf Of
> Dmitry Karpeev
> Sent: Saturday, November 13, 2004 7:23 PM
> To: kino at caida.org
> Subject: FW: [kino] Peter Greenaway report
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dmitry Karpeev [mailto:karpeev at mcs.anl.gov]
> Sent: Saturday, November 13, 2004 9:06 PM
> To: 'Dmitri Krioukov'
> Subject: RE: [kino] Peter Greenaway report
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> Greenaway also gave a lecture at Northwestern University, which I missed.
> Apparently, he talked for about 1.5 hours, didn't take questions,
> but showed
> his latest 6-minute short.  It was made at Lars Von Trier's request as a
> contribution to a collection of shorts by European directors on
> the theme of
> the European Union.   According to a witness that I interrogated,
> Greenaway's short depicts naked people (surprise, surprise) with national
> flags (UK, the Netherlands etc) painted on their naked bodies one by one
> crowding into a single shower and fighting for the water, which slowly
> washes away the painted flags.  In the end, the water runs out
> and they are
> left with a dirty mess of mixed paint at their feet.  Very optimistic.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dmitri Krioukov [mailto:dima at caida.org]
> Sent: Saturday, November 13, 2004 8:50 PM
> To: Dmitry Karpeev
> Cc: kino at caida.org
> Subject: RE: [kino] Peter Greenaway report
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> dimas,
>
> 92 dvds with luper's suitcases arrest
> me with surprise. on imdb, i can find
> only three. can you clarify? how many
> did you see? one? also, which one was
> made in russia?
>
> i understand greenaway's obsession with
> numbers, but 92 dvds... how much each?
> --
> dima.
> http://www.caida.org/~dima/
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: kino-bounces at caida.org [mailto:kino-bounces at caida.org]On Behalf Of
> Dmitry Karpeev
> Sent: Saturday, November 13, 2004 6:13 PM
> To: kino at caida.org
> Subject: [kino] Peter Greenaway report
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>
> Last Wed. Peter Greenaway himself made an appearance at Chicago’s Facets
> Multimedia to introduce one of his latest movies “Tulse Luper’s
> Suitcases”.
> He struck me as extremely gracious and sharp.  He said a few words before
> and answered questions after the movie.
> In his opinion, there is a revolution afoot in the cinema – the digital
> revolution.  It has the potential to reinvent the cinema, which, in Mr.
> Greenaway’s view, has been stuck in the “animated novel” paradigm nearly
> since its invention.  He himself thinks that the two cliché words,
> “interactive” and “multimedia”, encode the future of the cinema,
> although it
> is hard, if at all possible, to implement them in the setting of a
> traditional movie cinema.   For now, his movies seem to seek to
> explode the
> linear narrative structure of a movie, which ordinarily makes it akin to a
> text, and bring forward the image.  Many images.  Multiple
> images.  At once.
> And music.  Et cetera.
> It makes for difficult watching in some instances.  But extremely
> beautiful
> too.  His favorite director is S. Esenstein, followed by Godard at some
> distance.  Of the contemporary there are Lynch and Cronenberg
> that he feels
> conceptual closeness to.  Here’s something interesting, I think: Peter
> Greenaway use of nudes in his movies is both a reflection of his esthetic
> origins as a painter, and a challenge, to some extent, to the puritan
> sentiment as well as the stereotype that only attractive women in
> their 20s
> and 30s appear naked on film, primarily before a sex scene.  He gives a
> chance for all kinds of people to be naked on the screen and for all sorts
> of reasons.
>
> It turns out that Mr. Greenaway has had 2 painting exhibits, has written
> several books, directed (?) an opera (with more in the works) and is
> planning to put out 92 DVDs, one for each of Tulse Luper’s suitcases,
> apparently.
> There is a dude in Montreal that has constructed an interactive
> trailer, in
> which all or part of “Tulse Luper’s Suitcases” can be experience
> interactively, in any order: any scene (or scene inside a scene, of which
> there are many), any piece of music (mostly electronically recycled
> Prokofiev), any subtle political, geographical, literary or historic
> reference examined (he’s worse than Godard in this respect, his ideal
> audience requiring many years of rigorous schooling, it seems), et cetera.
> Now, this is both interactive and multimedia!  But is it cinema?
>
> Dima.
>
> Guy Muddin is visiting Facets next Wed., so stay tuned.
>
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